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Do not transfer a domain during Auto Renew Period

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Posted by: Jamie Zoch -

The simple way to put this..

If your domain happened to hit the expiry date and you remembered a day later and quickly renewed the domain, it’s still considered to be in Auto Renew Period. Then you decided you didn’t want the domain to be with that registrar anymore and started a transfer to another registrar. 

Normally after you transfer a domain an extra year is added to the expiry date. If your domain happens to be in the ARP period WAIT 45 days or when you transfer it, your extra year on the expiry date will NOT appear.

I have had this happen with several domain names and registrars are NOT required to offer you a refund for your First Renewal.

Below is a more detailed discription with a couple examples. (source for below info)

In any domain transfer process there are three entities involved -

Domain Owner (Registrant)
Losing Registrar
Gaining Registrar

Typically a Domain Name is transferred sometime before its expiry in order to renew it with the gaining Registrar. This results in ONE YEAR getting added to the domain name. The charges for this one year are collected by the Gaining Registrar. There is however a case when it seems as if this one year is not added during the transfer process. You need to understand this so that you do not make the mistake.

Basically if a Domain Name Expires, it is not deleted immediately. The Registrar of the domain name must explicitly delete the name within 45 days or else it is deemed to have been renewed. This period of 45 days is called the Auto Renew period. If during these 45 days the Registrant Renews the Domain Name with the Losing Registrar and then TRANSFERS the name to a new Gaining Registrar, then in that case the Domain Name WILL lose the year that was added with the Losing Registrar. Lets take an example.

* Suppose a domain name expires on 1st Jan 2001. Lets also suppose currently this domain is with Registrar A
* On 3rd Jan 2001 (after the domain has expired) you renew the domain with Registrar A. The domain has already expired, but not yet deleted, so you can safely renew it with Registrar A. This will make the expiry date as 1st Jan 2002
* Now on 10th Jan 2002 if you transfer this domain name to Registrar B this is what will happen
* The transfer will add one year to the domain name (expiry date will be 1st Jan 2004)
* If there has been any renewals in the 45 day auto-renew period those years will be removed (expiry date will be reset to 1st Jan 2003)
* The net effect therefore will be - that no year gets added to the transferred domain. It is however important to note that the year during TRANSFER is ACTUALLY ADDED. The reason why the expiry date does not reflect it is that the year added in renewal with the LOSING REGISTRAR is credited BACK to the Losing Registrar by the Registry.

You can do the following things in this situation

1. MOST IMPORTANTLY. Do not Transfer a name from one Registrar to another during the 45 day auto-renew period immediately after the expiry date of the domain name. Therefore if a domain name expires on 1st Jan 2001, do not transfer it to another Registrar until 15th Feb 2001.
2. If you have already done this mistake however the only recourse is to obtain a refund from the Losing Registrar for the renewal you have paid for with them. There is little scope of getting it considering that most Registrars may not understand this issue or may not have a refund policy.

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July 22nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
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Very interesting. Thanks for the information.

July 22nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
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KVS

I wish to know whether we will be able to transfer the domains to new Registrar B. in my case Registrar A is not renewing the domains even after getting the money.

so what should i do to get my domain back?

**Jamie Says**
Without knowing which registrars you are speaking of, it’s hard to say. I am guessing you are not dealing with a large registrar. Either way, if you pay for renewal, the domain should be renewed and nearly instantly. I have seen some “smaller” or cash strapped registrars “hold” your renewal money until about 5 days before your domain reaches it’s expiry date, which in my eye’s is a no/no.

You can file a complaint with ICANN if the registrar is not renewing your domain. Make sure to provide a lot of proof. Like Payment date, and the domain not showing renewal. You may also want to check at the Registry to verify if the domain was renewed or not.

January 6th, 2009 at 9:50 am
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KVS

I have shared more details to your email. please try to guide me. thanks for your time.

January 6th, 2009 at 10:40 am

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