Interesting little thread going on at NamePros.com . It appears that Bido.com (which they did confirm in the thread) has blocked IP addresses from Indonesia and is preventing anybody from Indonesia from using it’s Bido.com service.
I was aware that you could block an IP address but I didn’t know you could do it for a whole country!
In a reply to user Hendri, Bido sent an email that stated:
Unfortunately we will not be supporting Indonesian users anymore, sorry for the inconvenience this may cause.
Hendri happens to be from Indonesia and he stated he has been with Bido since they launched. I was pretty surprised Bido would block a whole country and clearly they must of been having some sort of issues with people from Indonesia but I think further steps could of been taken other than simply blocking the country.
Just because there is one or two or even a hundred bad apples, doesn’t mean that everybody from Indonesia is "bad" or causing any problems.
I would think people could by-pass this block using a Proxy Site and BS whois data like a lot of people do. I’m not saying to do this, but I know proxy services have worked for other IP bans.
I’m not sure how many users from Indonesia were members at Bido but I’m sure this will cause a stir blocking a whole country. Keep in mind that there is always two sides to a story. Allow Bido to make their side as well before judging but I wouldn’t expect a fully detailed explanation other then what was provided in the NamePros post already.
Interestingly enough, there is a site called BlockACountry.com that explains how to block a country by IP Address.
Hendri
Thanks Jamie to let this industry up to date.
don’t know what to do now..
they just blocked the WHOLE country..
Bido is Ridiculous.
Regards,
Hendri
Jason Lavigne
Blocking geographic locations is actually pretty common and sometimes required if you have issues with the users from that area such as receiving a high instance of fraudulent transactions. Most blocks however provide some manual means of validating yourself or provide a manual payment method for the service so you can continue to use the service.
Jarred Cohen
As we mentioned on the threads on NamePros, this was a quick fix to a problem that we had to implement to thwart fraud that was going on. We are implementing a more long term and sustainable solution and methods to address the core issue.
@Hendri, I know you were affected by this, and I know that you are upset. Please understand what we discussed and what you know about the situation now, it’s now our goal to make the necessary changes and provide a better solution to honest and ethical people who wish to do business with us. Hopefully you will hear about the changes soon, as we implement them.
Shane
let me summarize that. Sorry, we’ll get back to you.
The real problem is that some have to suffer to help the masses. It’s a part of life and to protect ME and the majority of Bido users, Bido had to shut off Indonesia, . Just find a validation system for individuals and you’ve got it fixed.
notsurprised
Bido and Jarred in particular are like children. There is no tolerance or patience with them. They ban people on rumors. Jarred is the worst… and that stupid video he has on the site really states just how stupid this guy is. If selling names for $28 is success, than I want to fail. I hope BIDO goes down in flames. They are a scar on an otherwise tight knit industry.
Hawaiian shirt Friday
Some people need to actually have something to lose online before crying in the crib about Bido.
Cutting off a country like Indonesia is only being smart. It is common practice as a part of online life.
So yeah, in my business I have already blocked the hopping savages from stealing from the great satan, you bet your sweet ones. When someone steals from me they don’t get to do it twice.
In this place, you don’t get to be nice, fair, or open minded, you get to be stolen from or nothing. If cutting off an area, country or continent damages your nice-me self image, think how the theives are laughing at you while counting your money.
Indonesia has entire institutionalized cybercrime industries in bed with their goverment. They are safe and warm, immune from consequences. They are not going to go away, and they are never going to stop. Blocked.
Nigeria, for many years, was a shining example of how a loose criminal network, in collusion with its goverment, could steal billions in cybercrime.
Other areas that get blocked as a course of routine security are the Balkan countries, parts of Africa, the middle East, and some asian couintries… like Indonesia. Expect those to be blocked if they’re not already.
Neil Sunset
I think the decision Bido has made isn’t too far off course from similar solutions other companies/corporations have made in the past, both large and small. Of course any company’s goal is to make a profit, but what we forget sometimes is that they still have to protect that profit as well as their mission. No company can continue to bleed profits until they detemine the best way to resolve a conflict, which may take months. Sometime you have to nip the problem at the bud until the best preventative measures can be implemented.
@notsurprised I don’t work for Bido or anything so let me state that upfront. But I am an avid user of their services. I’m not sure what type of issues you’ve had with them but I see you have some built up anger…maybe you’d care to share? I think the systems they have in place are very fair for both buyers and sellers. The run-of-the-mill person who labels themself a domainer might not be interested in the $28 “Bido Price” because the feel their name in worth more when in most cases it’s actually not, and sorry if that pertains to you if I’ve caused any offense. But truth is, if your domain was buyable at the high price “you” think it’s worth, then either it would have got chosen for auction by the very same “tight knit” community you spoke of, or you wouldn’t be at Bido trying to sell your domain to buyers that are not end-users and who are not likely to pay your end-user price. There are multiple other venues to sell your domain names at those high prices provided you are selling to end-users and quite frankly, your domains are actually worth their weight.
Lazy Domaining
Looks a harsh but probably a need of the hour quick fix to prevent something bad happening. From my experience i felt Bido listens to its customers most of the times if not everytime. Lets wait and watch and i am sure Bido will come up with a better filtering.
Kumar
They are just racists.
Hendri
Pls see this again (updated),
http://www.namepros.com/638074-bido-blocked-my-country-ip-my-2.html
What about China ??
WebCorp
We block dozens of countries on Debate.org using a database available by MaxMind.com. Initially, we began utilizing the blocks when we owned DateFree.com because the love spammers and scammers coming from Nigeria and Eastern Europe were too much to handle. I’ve found that with most community-type sites, you will eliminate 99% of the spam/scam headaches by blocking the right countries by ip.
sbam
BIDO IS THE DUMMEST THING I HAVE VERY SEEN SUCH A USELESS APPLICATION
Masser
Don’t worry buddy, domaining is not limited to one country, every country has equal rights for domains. As for Bido, it will be gone soon, just like the hair of its creator, cheers!
rj
Many top Ebay sellers block Indonesia and Nigeria. There must be a reason.
LS Morgan
We run a US Real Estate portal and block basically every country where people can still be seen riding mules as a primary method of transport. If you can’t afford wide-scale indoor plumbing, you probably don’t have the disposable income to be buying from us.
As Hawaiian Shirt Friday so correctly pointed out, a lot of the lamenting is coming from people who aren’t in any sort of position that necessitates making decisions like this.
Yeah, sorry to the good guys in Indonesia who aren’t out to scam, but if you want to play in the grown-up world, start electing politicians who aggressively pursue the massive amount of scammers that originate from your country.