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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.dotweekly.com/do-not-transfer-a-domain-during-auto-renew-period/#comment-18076</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why 10th Jan 2002? Talking about 10th Jan 2001 will be less confusing.
Many registrars do allow transfering expired domains, I&#039;ve done this before without any problem. The key point is do not RENEW AND transfer during the auto-renew period.
Here&#039;s another article more specific on this:
http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/09/domain-renewal-accounting-loophole-exposed-in-verisign-registry/
And here&#039;s the ICANN advisory posted in 2002:
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/advisory-06jun02.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why 10th Jan 2002? Talking about 10th Jan 2001 will be less confusing.<br />
Many registrars do allow transfering expired domains, I&#8217;ve done this before without any problem. The key point is do not RENEW AND transfer during the auto-renew period.<br />
Here&#8217;s another article more specific on this:<br />
<a href="http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/09/domain-renewal-accounting-loophole-exposed-in-verisign-registry/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/09/domain-renewal-accounting-loophole-exposed-in-verisign-registry/</a><br />
And here&#8217;s the ICANN advisory posted in 2002:<br />
<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/advisory-06jun02.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/advisory-06jun02.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: AsktheRick</title>
		<link>http://www.dotweekly.com/do-not-transfer-a-domain-during-auto-renew-period/#comment-18025</link>
		<dc:creator>AsktheRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your reply that my explanation was incorrect -- I see that I did make a mistake. I stated &quot;on 10th Jan 2002&quot; and should have used &quot;10th Jan 2001&quot; in my comments. Possibly, I could have explained more clearly, which I do below:

In re-reading your example, you IMPLY that even if one waits OVER a YEAR for the transfer, this problem will occur, but also state that one should wait 45 days before transfer. If one followed your example&#039;s dates, the domain would be  expired already when the transfer was attempted.

I believe that this is the root cause of being one year off in your example.

Stating the essentials more clearly from your example: 

-- domain expiry on &quot;1st Jan 2001&quot;

-- renewal on &quot;3rd Jan 2001&quot; (2 DAYS later)

-- transfer on &quot;10th Jan 2002&quot; (this is OVER a YEAR later and when the domain has expired unless an unstated &quot;renewal&quot; occurred (which technically DID occur, but it NOT mentioned in your article)).

Because of this unstated &quot;renewal&quot; (by the registry), I doubt that this transfer could even occur, since the domain would be &quot;technically expired&quot; and could not be transferred. (It&#039;s status and expiration date at that point would depend on the type of domain.)

If the date you used in the example was &quot;10th Jan 2001&quot;, then this example would demonstrate what I believe you intended (but would require other date changes as well). 

(But then this would be the source of your math error I mentioned in my previous comment, that I did not proofread well enough and explain carefully enough, which is my fault.)

Therefore, as currently shown, in my estimation, your article is NOT correct due to this date difference (which is absolutely essential).

(Following the dates and the logic, as presented, and assuming that &quot;expired&quot; domains could be transferred within days of expiration, your example shows that the transfer would add TWO years &quot;1st Jan 2004&quot; to the domain. Again assuming that this transfer were possible, which I doubt, the domain would be in an &quot;automated renewal period&quot; where the registrar has paid by default (money grabbed by the registry, but unpaid by you the registrant) the only date you would be entitled to (based on the information you provided) would be 01 Jan 2003. (You paid for one renewal on 3rd Jan 2001 and paid for another year by transfer (after expiry) on 10th Jan 2002. The expiration might SHOW 2004, but if the registry shifted it back to 2003, THEY would be correct since 2001+1+1=2003, not 2004). Assuming again that this was a real example (which is doubtful), the extra year was caused by the &quot;automated renewal&quot;, which you did NOT pay for and was removed, but that would defeat the purpose of the entire article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your reply that my explanation was incorrect &#8212; I see that I did make a mistake. I stated &#8220;on 10th Jan 2002&#8243; and should have used &#8220;10th Jan 2001&#8243; in my comments. Possibly, I could have explained more clearly, which I do below:</p>
<p>In re-reading your example, you IMPLY that even if one waits OVER a YEAR for the transfer, this problem will occur, but also state that one should wait 45 days before transfer. If one followed your example&#8217;s dates, the domain would be  expired already when the transfer was attempted.</p>
<p>I believe that this is the root cause of being one year off in your example.</p>
<p>Stating the essentials more clearly from your example: </p>
<p>&#8211; domain expiry on &#8220;1st Jan 2001&#8243;</p>
<p>&#8211; renewal on &#8220;3rd Jan 2001&#8243; (2 DAYS later)</p>
<p>&#8211; transfer on &#8220;10th Jan 2002&#8243; (this is OVER a YEAR later and when the domain has expired unless an unstated &#8220;renewal&#8221; occurred (which technically DID occur, but it NOT mentioned in your article)).</p>
<p>Because of this unstated &#8220;renewal&#8221; (by the registry), I doubt that this transfer could even occur, since the domain would be &#8220;technically expired&#8221; and could not be transferred. (It&#8217;s status and expiration date at that point would depend on the type of domain.)</p>
<p>If the date you used in the example was &#8220;10th Jan 2001&#8243;, then this example would demonstrate what I believe you intended (but would require other date changes as well). </p>
<p>(But then this would be the source of your math error I mentioned in my previous comment, that I did not proofread well enough and explain carefully enough, which is my fault.)</p>
<p>Therefore, as currently shown, in my estimation, your article is NOT correct due to this date difference (which is absolutely essential).</p>
<p>(Following the dates and the logic, as presented, and assuming that &#8220;expired&#8221; domains could be transferred within days of expiration, your example shows that the transfer would add TWO years &#8220;1st Jan 2004&#8243; to the domain. Again assuming that this transfer were possible, which I doubt, the domain would be in an &#8220;automated renewal period&#8221; where the registrar has paid by default (money grabbed by the registry, but unpaid by you the registrant) the only date you would be entitled to (based on the information you provided) would be 01 Jan 2003. (You paid for one renewal on 3rd Jan 2001 and paid for another year by transfer (after expiry) on 10th Jan 2002. The expiration might SHOW 2004, but if the registry shifted it back to 2003, THEY would be correct since 2001+1+1=2003, not 2004). Assuming again that this was a real example (which is doubtful), the extra year was caused by the &#8220;automated renewal&#8221;, which you did NOT pay for and was removed, but that would defeat the purpose of the entire article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Zoch</title>
		<link>http://www.dotweekly.com/do-not-transfer-a-domain-during-auto-renew-period/#comment-17849</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Zoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AskTheRick,
Sorry, but you are incorrect ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AskTheRick,<br />
Sorry, but you are incorrect <img src='http://www.dotweekly.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AsktheRick</title>
		<link>http://www.dotweekly.com/do-not-transfer-a-domain-during-auto-renew-period/#comment-17848</link>
		<dc:creator>AsktheRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I don&#039;t understand fully, but it appears that the math in your example is incorrect.

You state:

* Now on 10th Jan 2002 if you transfer this domain name to Registrar B this is what will happen
* The transfer will add one year to the domain name (expiry date will be 1st Jan 2004) 

Adding one year to 2002 would be 2003, not 2004. 

I also believe that there are status changes in place to block the transfer so this cannot happen. 

(This was to make sure that the funds for the renewal are collected. This keeps the registrant from being able to deny the charge on their credit card after renewal and after a transfer. The registrar could get stuck with the domain if this happens and this is why some have auctions to potentially recoup this loss. This is also why you can&#039;t change registrars quickly when you create a new domain.)

But I could be incorrect about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I don&#8217;t understand fully, but it appears that the math in your example is incorrect.</p>
<p>You state:</p>
<p>* Now on 10th Jan 2002 if you transfer this domain name to Registrar B this is what will happen<br />
* The transfer will add one year to the domain name (expiry date will be 1st Jan 2004) </p>
<p>Adding one year to 2002 would be 2003, not 2004. </p>
<p>I also believe that there are status changes in place to block the transfer so this cannot happen. </p>
<p>(This was to make sure that the funds for the renewal are collected. This keeps the registrant from being able to deny the charge on their credit card after renewal and after a transfer. The registrar could get stuck with the domain if this happens and this is why some have auctions to potentially recoup this loss. This is also why you can&#8217;t change registrars quickly when you create a new domain.)</p>
<p>But I could be incorrect about this.</p>
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		<title>By: OLED</title>
		<link>http://www.dotweekly.com/do-not-transfer-a-domain-during-auto-renew-period/#comment-14605</link>
		<dc:creator>OLED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THX for the info.
Just trying to transfer my domain before it expires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THX for the info.<br />
Just trying to transfer my domain before it expires.</p>
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		<title>By: KVS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KVS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have shared more details to your email. please try to guide me. thanks for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have shared more details to your email. please try to guide me. thanks for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: KVS</title>
		<link>http://www.dotweekly.com/do-not-transfer-a-domain-during-auto-renew-period/#comment-3212</link>
		<dc:creator>KVS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish to know whether we will be able to transfer the domains to new Registrar B. in my case Registrar A is not renewing the domains even after getting the money.

so what should i do to get my domain back?

**Jamie Says**
Without knowing which registrars you are speaking of, it&#039;s hard to say. I am guessing you are not dealing with a large registrar. Either way, if you pay for renewal, the domain should be renewed and nearly instantly. I have seen some &quot;smaller&quot; or cash strapped registrars &quot;hold&quot; your renewal money until about 5 days before your domain reaches it&#039;s expiry date, which in my eye&#039;s is a no/no. 
---
You can file a complaint with ICANN if the registrar is not renewing your domain. Make sure to provide a lot of proof. Like Payment date, and the domain not showing renewal. You may also want to check at the Registry to verify if the domain was renewed or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish to know whether we will be able to transfer the domains to new Registrar B. in my case Registrar A is not renewing the domains even after getting the money.</p>
<p>so what should i do to get my domain back?</p>
<p>**Jamie Says**<br />
Without knowing which registrars you are speaking of, it&#8217;s hard to say. I am guessing you are not dealing with a large registrar. Either way, if you pay for renewal, the domain should be renewed and nearly instantly. I have seen some &#8220;smaller&#8221; or cash strapped registrars &#8220;hold&#8221; your renewal money until about 5 days before your domain reaches it&#8217;s expiry date, which in my eye&#8217;s is a no/no.<br />
&#8212;<br />
You can file a complaint with ICANN if the registrar is not renewing your domain. Make sure to provide a lot of proof. Like Payment date, and the domain not showing renewal. You may also want to check at the Registry to verify if the domain was renewed or not.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Erhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. Thanks for the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. Thanks for the information.</p>
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