Comments on: Domain Name Parking Revenue Pulse is Weak http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:29:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: rob http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7767 rob Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:07:34 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7767 Yes, that example would work. So would a travel blog that focuses on different countries, or a tech blog that focuses on all kinds of technologies. The problem would be how to mix, say, dating, airline tickets, kitchen appliances, and loans into one blog. Maybe with a half dozen 'theme' blogs you could cover most ground - general products, finance, travel, relationships, real estate and gaming would cover a lot of areas. Yes, that example would work. So would a travel blog that focuses on different countries, or a tech blog that focuses on all kinds of technologies. The problem would be how to mix, say, dating, airline tickets, kitchen appliances, and loans into one blog. Maybe with a half dozen ‘theme’ blogs you could cover most ground – general products, finance, travel, relationships, real estate and gaming would cover a lot of areas.

]]> By: Jamie Zoch http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7761 Jamie Zoch Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:24:59 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7761 @Rob, If you consider using a pretty generic domain name for the blog, you can really cover A LOT and still be relevant to the domain. Let's say you have the domain CoolProducts.com ... Endless things to write about, endless affiliates available and you can have "new" things to write about daily. Like wise, once you have content and happen to own other product related domains, forwarding the traffic to a specific page, category or posting relevant to that domain would make sense. @Rob,
If you consider using a pretty generic domain name for the blog, you can really cover A LOT and still be relevant to the domain. Let’s say you have the domain CoolProducts.com … Endless things to write about, endless affiliates available and you can have “new” things to write about daily. Like wise, once you have content and happen to own other product related domains, forwarding the traffic to a specific page, category or posting relevant to that domain would make sense.

]]> By: rob http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7760 rob Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:50:29 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7760 A blog is better than a minisite in the sense if you keep it updated with new posts, you get repeat visitors and better search ranking. The basic minisites I talked about would post information on the subject related to the domain, and the info should be 'timeless', meaning you can leave it there a long time and it won't get outdated, otherwise you spend more time going back to these sites to change content. A blog is usually about one general subject matter, but sure if you can create pages on it with different categories then it would work as long as the domain is related to the topic. The blog might look a little scattered though to the average visitor if you get too diverse on subject matter. Also, I've been looking for 'general' type affiliate programs, something that would appeal to a whole lot of people no matter what they were looking for in the first place - something like dating, domain/website builders, etc that can be put on any webpage and get some conversions. Not easy to find something like that. A blog is better than a minisite in the sense if you keep it updated with new posts, you get repeat visitors and better search ranking. The basic minisites I talked about would post information on the subject related to the domain, and the info should be ‘timeless’, meaning you can leave it there a long time and it won’t get outdated, otherwise you spend more time going back to these sites to change content.

A blog is usually about one general subject matter, but sure if you can create pages on it with different categories then it would work as long as the domain is related to the topic. The blog might look a little scattered though to the average visitor if you get too diverse on subject matter.

Also, I’ve been looking for ‘general’ type affiliate programs, something that would appeal to a whole lot of people no matter what they were looking for in the first place – something like dating, domain/website builders, etc that can be put on any webpage and get some conversions. Not easy to find something like that.

]]> By: Further Reading.. at Conceptualist.com, By Sahar Sarid http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7757 Further Reading.. at Conceptualist.com, By Sahar Sarid Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:19:37 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7757 [...] Dot Weekly: Domain Name Parking Revenue Pulse is Weak [...] [...] Dot Weekly: Domain Name Parking Revenue Pulse is Weak [...]

]]> By: Lee H. http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7756 Lee H. Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:00:47 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7756 I have to say, I do agree that parking is for the most part a defunct way to make money on your domains. However; mini-sites and scaling mini-site development is not. I don't recommend it for the average domainer, but with the tools available these days its not nearly the task it used to be. The reality is that even if the revenue isn't huge, its an indexed page(s) in the search engines which will enhance the domain's value, making your sales pitch better. At least IMHO. I have to say, I do agree that parking is for the most part a defunct way to make money on your domains. However; mini-sites and scaling mini-site development is not. I don’t recommend it for the average domainer, but with the tools available these days its not nearly the task it used to be. The reality is that even if the revenue isn’t huge, its an indexed page(s) in the search engines which will enhance the domain’s value, making your sales pitch better. At least IMHO.

]]> By: Jamie Zoch http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7753 Jamie Zoch Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:31:34 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7753 @Rob, What are your thoughts of a blog being a King minisite? The blog itself can be about a main topic but spun off with many angles, pages, categories, sub-categories etc. With the blog, you still control content and ads, plus your traffic source is going to one main domain which helps for SEO. You can use specific domains to redirect to a specific page on the blog etc. @Rob,
What are your thoughts of a blog being a King minisite? The blog itself can be about a main topic but spun off with many angles, pages, categories, sub-categories etc. With the blog, you still control content and ads, plus your traffic source is going to one main domain which helps for SEO. You can use specific domains to redirect to a specific page on the blog etc.

]]> By: Jamie Zoch http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7752 Jamie Zoch Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:26:31 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7752 @Johnny, I agree it sure seems affiliates are in the business of stealing traffic, as traffic reports are nearly always light on features. CJ is bad, but I have had conversions... just not consistent at all and it has been getting worse. I think redirects can work, but the domain owner needs to put in a little bit of work other then the redirect. A blog is a good example, it can be busy and include A LOT of different things. Sending a domain to a specific page/post with ads or affiliates seems to work pretty well also. @Johnny,
I agree it sure seems affiliates are in the business of stealing traffic, as traffic reports are nearly always light on features. CJ is bad, but I have had conversions… just not consistent at all and it has been getting worse. I think redirects can work, but the domain owner needs to put in a little bit of work other then the redirect. A blog is a good example, it can be busy and include A LOT of different things. Sending a domain to a specific page/post with ads or affiliates seems to work pretty well also.

]]> By: Mary Waugh http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7751 Mary Waugh Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:23:51 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7751 Domain parking for sure is running low these days. So, you must be cautious while getting your domain parked. Domain parking for sure is running low these days. So, you must be cautious while getting your domain parked.

]]> By: Johnny http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7750 Johnny Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:25:55 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7750 Hey Jamie.....I have dug on affiliates. I have done plenty of redirects, but there may be others that know more than me in this regard. I will say that overall my experience doing this has been miserable. The conversions are no different now than what they were in 1997....almost nothing. It does not even seem to matter how good the domain is. You could point Diamonds.com to a diamond affiliate program and would be lucky to sell ten diamonds a year. I really think that most affiliates are in business to simply rip off their partners. They don't accurately track cookies, whether intentional or not. Or, intentionally don't pay out on conversions This is why parking pays more. They can't get around it. Parking would not pay what it does after all these years if they were not getting the conversions. And, it is not about branding....so that is not a reason parking pays more. All I can say is redirects are tough nuts. You have to do a whole bunch of them before you find one or two that work. But, if you have high volume traffic and you DO hit on one that converts, it can make some real money and make all that work worth it. I love your idea of a site of advertisers where redirects are permitted. Also, a rating system for each would be cool. On a bit of a side note, does CJ ever convert well for anyone? It was the worst converting platform ten years ago and I have been sending some 600 uniques a day from a couple great generics to them using a couple of their affiliate programs for one month now......ZERO CONVERSIONS! Do they ever pay at all? Have you ever even had a single conversion? Everywhere else at least converts some. WRT....domain parking, it has fallen for me about 40% since March 2009. You know, one thing to consider, is this wild card coming from eBay. They are getting ready to do PPC. It might be a game-changer. Who really knows how that will play out? Are they making a play for parking ppc traffic, albeit somewhat quietly? Thanks for your great page Jamie. I like hearing about different angles you have. You remind me of me in how I look at domain ppc monetization. Hey Jamie…..I have dug on affiliates. I have done plenty of redirects, but there may be others that know more than me in this regard.

I will say that overall my experience doing this has been miserable. The conversions are no different now than what they were in 1997….almost nothing. It does not even seem to matter how good the domain is. You could point Diamonds.com to a diamond affiliate program and would be lucky to sell ten diamonds a year.

I really think that most affiliates are in business to simply rip off their partners. They don’t accurately track cookies, whether intentional or not. Or, intentionally don’t pay out on conversions This is why parking pays more. They can’t get around it. Parking would not pay what it does after all these years if they were not getting the conversions. And, it is not about branding….so that is not a reason parking pays more.

All I can say is redirects are tough nuts. You have to do a whole bunch of them before you find one or two that work. But, if you have high volume traffic and you DO hit on one that converts, it can make some real money and make all that work worth it.

I love your idea of a site of advertisers where redirects are permitted. Also, a rating system for each would be cool.

On a bit of a side note, does CJ ever convert well for anyone? It was the worst converting platform ten years ago and I have been sending some 600 uniques a day from a couple great generics to them using a couple of their affiliate programs for one month now……ZERO CONVERSIONS! Do they ever pay at all? Have you ever even had a single conversion? Everywhere else at least converts some.

WRT….domain parking, it has fallen for me about 40% since March 2009.

You know, one thing to consider, is this wild card coming from eBay. They are getting ready to do PPC. It might be a game-changer. Who really knows how that will play out? Are they making a play for parking ppc traffic, albeit somewhat quietly?

Thanks for your great page Jamie. I like hearing about different angles you have. You remind me of me in how I look at domain ppc monetization.

]]> By: rob http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7734 rob Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:40:21 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7734 A mini site is the best thing in between parking and full development. You can build a webpage with info relating to the domain, put adsense on there, a G search box, AND links/banners to any affiliate programs YOU choose (best if related to the domain subject). YOU have full control, and done right a minisite looks and performs better than PPC these days. If you have a group of domains that are subject related, you can forward them all to the same minisite. Advantages of a minisite: you choose the content you choose which ads to use and where to put them you can get ranked in search engines The way ppc is going its time for domainers to learn web development, or at least use a simple sitebuilder programs, there are many good ones out there now that are dead easy to use - experiment. The downside of just pointing your domain to an affiliate program? if the affiliate website goes down, or doesn't work, or closes, or tracks your clicks/revenue wrong, you are funneling dead traffic through your domain. At least adsense is stable and has an endless supply of related ads to show on your site. A mini site is the best thing in between parking and full development.

You can build a webpage with info relating to the domain, put adsense on there, a G search box, AND links/banners to any affiliate programs YOU choose (best if related to the domain subject). YOU have full control, and done right a minisite looks and performs better than PPC these days. If you have a group of domains that are subject related, you can forward them all to the same minisite.

Advantages of a minisite:

you choose the content
you choose which ads to use and where to put them
you can get ranked in search engines

The way ppc is going its time for domainers to learn web development, or at least use a simple sitebuilder programs, there are many good ones out there now that are dead easy to use – experiment.

The downside of just pointing your domain to an affiliate program? if the affiliate website goes down, or doesn’t work, or closes, or tracks your clicks/revenue wrong, you are funneling dead traffic through your domain. At least adsense is stable and has an endless supply of related ads to show on your site.

]]> By: Jamie Zoch http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7732 Jamie Zoch Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:31:57 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7732 @Leonard, I will likely write a post at some point about affiliates more, but I can say here that CJ has done very poorly for me. Did I say very.. I meant VERY! I have tried Amazon as well with little luck, but I do have a couple that work for me and I still have not dug deep enough into affiliate programs as I should.. but I will be now. @Leonard,
I will likely write a post at some point about affiliates more, but I can say here that CJ has done very poorly for me. Did I say very.. I meant VERY! I have tried Amazon as well with little luck, but I do have a couple that work for me and I still have not dug deep enough into affiliate programs as I should.. but I will be now.

]]> By: Lisa http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7725 Lisa Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:03:39 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7725 I think it's best to develop a few sites in depth that get thousands of visitors a month rather than to try to develop thousands of mini-sites that will never get updated and usually have info that is not very helpful. I think it’s best to develop a few sites in depth that get thousands of visitors a month rather than to try to develop thousands of mini-sites that will never get updated and usually have info that is not very helpful.

]]> By: Leonard Britt http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7720 Leonard Britt Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:52:14 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7720 I have read similar comments from other domainers regarding the falloff in parking income. I agree that the minisite fad doesn't seem to make sense. How likely is a minisite going to rank well in Google and continue to do so over the long term with no updates? After a few months with CJ and Amazon affiliates, I am not seeing much incentive to go this route either. Perhaps with thousands of weekly visitors results might be different, but... In either case, keyword domains should still be valued by end users even more so if they have some type-in traffic or if they are searched phrases which could rank well with development. I have read similar comments from other domainers regarding the falloff in parking income. I agree that the minisite fad doesn’t seem to make sense. How likely is a minisite going to rank well in Google and continue to do so over the long term with no updates? After a few months with CJ and Amazon affiliates, I am not seeing much incentive to go this route either. Perhaps with thousands of weekly visitors results might be different, but… In either case, keyword domains should still be valued by end users even more so if they have some type-in traffic or if they are searched phrases which could rank well with development.

]]> By: Sammy Ashouri http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7719 Sammy Ashouri Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:45:15 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7719 Parking is uhhhh, yeah... bad at the moment :). I've been mildly looking at stats while away on vacation and wow--unbelievable. I've been back for 2 weeks now and have literally just been sitting tweaking keywords and what not, but nada. MORE traffic, WAY less earnings. This idea: "I think you may be better just putting up a adsense Google search box on a plain page to have the user type what they want and it could work almost as well. That’s basically how Firefox makes it’s Millions, from people doing Google searches in it’s toolbar from my understanding." Is definitely one that I have been considering for some time now. Parking is uhhhh, yeah… bad at the moment :) . I’ve been mildly looking at stats while away on vacation and wow–unbelievable. I’ve been back for 2 weeks now and have literally just been sitting tweaking keywords and what not, but nada. MORE traffic, WAY less earnings.

This idea:

“I think you may be better just putting up a adsense Google search box on a plain page to have the user type what they want and it could work almost as well. That’s basically how Firefox makes it’s Millions, from people doing Google searches in it’s toolbar from my understanding.”

Is definitely one that I have been considering for some time now.

]]> By: Francois http://www.dotweekly.com/domain-name-parking-revenue-pulse-is-weak/#comment-7715 Francois Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:51:19 +0000 http://www.dotweekly.com/?p=2335#comment-7715 My parking is exactly 3 times lower than one year ago. To be honnest if I will have invested the same amount in real estate I will be making near 10 times more of passive income monthly! So don't put your eggs in the same basket, virtual is often virtual... My parking is exactly 3 times lower than one year ago. To be honnest if I will have invested the same amount in real estate I will be making near 10 times more of passive income monthly!
So don’t put your eggs in the same basket, virtual is often virtual…

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